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Original: 6/4/2006 2:53 PM
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Sunday, June 04, 2006

Altruism Vs. The Selfish Gene

 Altruism - Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.

It's a pretty broad definition isn't it?  Everybody likes to think of themselves selfless...  But let me clear up what it means to be altruistic.  Some use this example:  "a father pushes his son out of the way of a car and gets killed in the process".  Some would say that's altruistic, but it's not.  There's something to gain in this act, he helps to insure his genes survive down the generations.  If he lost his life for someone he did not know, then that's altruism in it's purest form.  Some people think that giving to charity or homeless people is altruism.  But that's not quite altruistic either.  It helps to alleviate that feeling of guilt of having when others have not.  Although it's pretty close to true altruism. 

I think altruism does not and should not exist.  It is a sign of weakness.  Man is genetically selfish.  That is how we survive.  To help others is to increase competition.  Competition for resource, competition for space, and competition for mates.  People who go out of their way to help others are taken advantage of.  They will not move far in this world.  Don't think of my thoughts as something a deranged person would say.  Think of it like this.  A forest has many trees.  The tallest trees gets the most sunlight.  By branching out and covering the sky do they accomplish this.  And in doing so they take out the light for the others .  Those that do not fight for survival selfishly will be stunted in growth.  It's a sad thing, this idea of altruism.  We, humans instill in our next generation the morals and ideology of altruism, justice, and honor that we so cherish.  Hoping they can further our culture and enlighten us to new heights.  Yet, they can never be achieved because of our needs for survival...  They can only be considered a myth like Shangri-la or a concept like "utopia".  In the end, only greed advances society. 

The kind ones are stepped on... Like protruding stones in a babbling brook, they help others cross, but will forever be cemented in place.  Why do girls like bad boys?  That's easy, only the strong survive.  And you don't become strong by being a nice guy.  People who are selfish and greedy advance far in society.  They are enamored by the masses for soaring so high.  For when you reach the pinnacle of society, you can manipulate the views of those who are beneath you.  For the "Just World" view prevails for many of us...  Fortune is visited upon those who are just, and misfortune curse those who are vile.  Is Bill Gates a good guy because he donates millions to charity yearly?  Or is he evil because he stabbed Steve Jobs, his friend and mentor, in the back by stealing concepts from Apple and creating Microsoft?  Fortunate is he who is without compassion and sympathy.

Fortunate, fortunate, fortunate...?

I desperately want someone to argue this post.  For if I'm right, my view of society will become lower than it already is...
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WoW... thats deep!  And I totally agree with it because I think I'm the misfortunate one because I will go out of my way to help others...sigh.  thanks for the call we shall talk more latas :P

Posted 6/5/2006 11:38 PM by me2silly81 - reply

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I canont argue with you here. I COMPLETELY agree with this post. In fact, this is one of the best posts I have read in a long long time. I thought i added you on myspace? Mine is www.myspace.com/amourpassion  put "Rose" or "Kwok" as the last name if it asks you for a last name.
Posted 6/6/2006 2:27 AM by AmouraRose - reply

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Let me ask you this..lets say today..  you invite a girl to go out with you for dinner..   and you pay for dinner (expensive one)..  so are you being altruism or being selfish?? 
Posted 6/7/2006 7:00 PM by automaker - reply

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Well, mike... what is the reason for inviting a girl out for dinner? If it's a total stranger and you're not going to get anything out of it... Let's say you take a homeless lady out to an expensive dinner because she's hungry and you're not expecting anything in return... then yeah it would be altruistic. Otherwise, you're doing so for alterior motives and cannot be counted as altruism..
Posted 6/7/2006 8:33 PM by flyingtigers9 - reply

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then take the expectation out of the equation..  then you will have a genuine altruistic lifestyle..   and girls will come to you because of your charisma..
Posted 6/8/2006 2:17 AM by automaker - reply

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dude.. I'm arguing that altruism should not exist... because if you're altruistic. Then you're weak and get used... Just sick of being nice... Plus you can't take expectation out of anything. Expectation is in everything. You expect to wake up to go to work and expect to get paid. You expect to go to dinner with a girl and expect conversation/whatever else. Everything comes with expectations... or else just sleep forever. No expectations there...
Posted 6/8/2006 12:19 PM by flyingtigers9 - reply

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hey i agree with everything u say man!!

i don't bother telling ppl that i'm not selfish, cuz i am and i make sure all my friends know it too

if i were to say it in a pessimistic way, i would say "there's only one person u can truely trust/depend on in this world, and that person is yourself".

but i prefer saying "treate others as how u would want them to treate u" cuz it's okay to be selfish as long as u let other ppl gain some from u too in exchange

Posted 6/8/2006 7:22 PM by yunhe - reply

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She never approves of anyone, which is pretty stupid. She definitely fits into the selfish gene. She should read this post!
Posted 6/8/2006 7:42 PM by AmouraRose - reply

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Yi, when are you going to learn??   You're my buddy.. of course i understand what you been thru..  just becaues you been bitten by a snake that doesnt mean all snakes are bad...  right?   You just have to approach girls differently..   stop doing the things you do..  because that is not helping and plus you get hurt at the end..   when you say you hate playing mind games..  then stop expecting..  relax and lay back..  let girls comes to you..    my buddy here is good looking right?  dont you girls agree??   trust me..  you're time will come..  just be more confident about yourself..  do the things you like to do..   and stop spending Gs on girls

Posted 6/9/2006 1:36 PM by automaker - reply

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I don’t know what happened in your past for you to have a negative view of life, but for what it’s worth, I’m sorry that someone hurt you and changed your once pure perception of the world. I strongly believe altruism exists. Unfortunately, many selfish, immoral and deceitful people also live in this world, but so does the complete opposite.

My definition of altruism is the practice of placing others before oneself. With your first example of the father risking his life to save his son, he is practicing altruism. Think about it… if your son is in the middle of the road, and a car is racing down the road @ 40 mph, do you think you’ll have time to reason out why you should save your son? A person might have one second at most to react. Plus, if the dad is not practicing altruism, why would he risk his own life? He can have more kids and live. Plus with gene therapy, he can chose the sex of his baby. Therefore, he has nothing to gain but to save his own child because of love. A parent has unconditional love for their child or should have this type of love.

Your third paragraph is true. People who always help others will not move far financially in this world. But, money is not everything. Unfortunately, some are ruled by money, prestige, and material belongings and will do what’s necessary to gain their desires. Even backstabbing their friend. But, after all is done and they are left with superficial friends, I bet they feel empty and lonely inside. Maybe Bill Gates is donating due to guilt. You never know. My question to everyone is, how important is it to hurt others for your own gain? How much lies, betrayal, and deceit can one live with?

Regarding your second paragraph, many people are selfish, but not all. And, I don’t think it’s fair to correlate trees with people. Yes, in biology life the strongest survive, but they also do not have souls. We feel pain, sorrow, love, happiness…That’s what makes us different. I know it’s sad nice people finish last. It’s true. But, you know what? If you are the nice person, you should stay strong and set an example for others. I always say overcome evil with good. Just because you were backstabbed doesn’t mean you should change your attitude about people in general. Don’t let your past poison your future. I know it’s hard, but try having an optimistic attitude. Unfair things happen to everyone. But don’t walk around w/ a chip on your shoulder. Try turning it around. Shake off your self-pity and be hopeful and know that something good will come your way. I strongly believe what comes around goes around. And, if you maintain being a good person, sooner or later your match will come and both of you will appreciate each other more because of what you went through in your past life.

We cannot allow painful memories and experiences hinder our future goals and dreams. All of us go through pain and difficulty, but what matters is who we become at the end. Don’t be resentful and quit living depressed and be excited about your future. Be grateful for the small things that are taken for granted everyday. Having a roof over our head, being healthy, having friends and family. The only way to stay sane is to choose your attitude and to say no, I will not let my past affect my future. Don’t hang on to your painful memories because it’ll weigh you down and become a negative cycle. Many people do not move forward in life because they don’t know how to even if they do meet the right person.
And, once you meet the right person, how will you ever know since your mind is trapped in despair. Don’t be too busy nursing your wounds and move forward. You cannot take advantage of your present opportunities unless you are willing to let go of your past.

Is your dream greater then the painful memories of the past? Are you focusing on the negative? Let go of what didn’t work out and forgive the people who hurt you. I know you might have 1000 good reasons to stay pessimistic, but you have to move on. Don’t look at life looking in the rear view mirror. Look ahead of what’s to come and don’t let your past weigh you down.

Love,
Someone who cares unselfishly

(This response was originally written ~6/10)
Posted 7/15/2006 4:45 PM by sunm1 - reply


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